• E073: The Millennial Lawyer: Discovering the Y of Law with Nicole Abboud


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    “As a fashion attorney there’s just so much that you can do” – Nicole Abboud

    Nicole Abboud is one of the top cats in the latest generation of lawyers. Having left law school, she believed that family law was what she wanted to do. Actually, it didn’t turn out like that, and within a few years she had opened her own practice specializing in fashion law having realized that she wanted to help people in the fashion industry. Nicole has her own ideas about what’s important for today’s graduating lawyers, and in today’s show she chats with Jacob about young attorney’s need for independence, building communities as a marketing strategy and offers some fashion advice to lawyers.


    “The two big characteristics that define our generation are wanting to be independent and wanting to creatively find solutions” – Nicole Abboud

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    What is it that defines the generation of young lawyers who are leaving law school right now. According to Nicole Abboud it’s a want to be independent and a need to find new ways to solve old problems. in today’s show, Nicole talks to Jacob about how she ended up as a fashion attorney, and some of the new ways that law firms are solving problems such as marketing.

    If you prefer to watch the discussion in action, here is my recorded interview with Nicole Abboud (please refresh your browser a few times if it isn’t loaded properly the first time):

    In this interview you’ll learn

    • 02’53” – About Nicole and how she got into fashion law
    • 07’02” – What is involved in her job as a fashion attorney
    • 10’06” – About the new generation of law graduates
    • 13’00” – About Nicole’s podcast
    • 17’30” – What students should be doing while still at law school to help them when they come out
    • 22’06” – Why Nicole prefers “building communities” to “networking”
    • 25’40” – Nicole’s fashion advice for attorneys

    Written Podcast Transcription:

    Introduction:   Welcome to the Enchanting Lawyer Podcast. The show that walks you step by step to improving strategies you can use today to grow your business. We show you how being kind, useful and, of course, enchanting will bring you more clients and build a thriving community. Now here’s your host from sunny San Diego, Jacob Sapochnick.

    Jacob:   Hello everybody, welcome to the Enchanting Lawyer podcast. This is your host Jacob Sapochnick.

    I’m actually recording this show from – I’m in San Francisco right now – and I have a very, very interesting, and I’m very excited about the guest today. Because I’m getting a lot of emails from young lawyers from all over the world actually, they are basically – they give me comments about the show and they like it but the biggest problem is the fear of how do we start? How do we excel in our practice? Can we actually make it as attorneys?

    Today we start one of many interviews with brilliant young lawyers and my guest today is – her name is Nicole Abboud. She’s an attorney in Los Angeles. She’s practicing fashion law. She works with fashion designers and companies to set up their business entities and protect their brands.

    Nicole graduated from Southwestern Law School in 2011 and she remains heavily involved in her law school’s young alumni organization and many, many other organizations.

    When she’s not lawyering you can find Nicole chatting with many amazing millennial attorneys on her podcast, The Gen Why Lawyer Podcast, which is really, really good and I highly recommend you guys to listen to it. Nicole’s guests range from attorneys who are finding great success in the legal careers to attorneys who have decided to pursue alternative no legal careers to find happiness if it’s any possible.

    Nicole, I’m excited to have you on the show. Welcome.

    Nicole:   Hi Jacob. Thanks for having me. I’m excited to be here.

    Jacob:   You mentioned before that you didn’t feel so well so hopefully you will feel better after the show because that’s what we do, make lawyers feel better; my new tagline.

    Nicole:   That’s a good one. Yeah, thank you. Yeah. I apologize to the listeners because – hopefully my voice comes out clearly. It’s a little bit nasally at this point but it should be good. I think we’re still going to share some good content so that’s all that matters.

    Jacob:   Absolutely.

    I’m excited to have you here because you are a part of the millennial generation. Just people who don’t know what it is, we also call them the Generation Y. Those people born, I guess, between 1980 and 2000 and they are the largest generation in United States and the fastest growing segment of workers today. And if we’re talking about lawyers who are a part of this, they’re going to have a lot of challenges and a lot of struggles.

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