E061: The Future of Law with Brian Tannebaum
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“I don’t care how much technology is out there, that is going to be able to never take the place of what I just mentioned people call my office, they tell me their secrets, we strategize about their case, we meet with another lawyer and negotiate something and there will always be the need for lawyers to do that,” – Brian Tannebaum
A newspaper reporter once wrote that Brian Tannebaum is “the lawyer that lawyers go to when they find themselves in hot water.” A Past President of the Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers now in his 20th year of practice, Tannebaum’s clients are either lawyer trying to remain lawyers, law students trying to become lawyers or those facing state or federal criminal charges. His professional ethics blog, mylawlicense.com was honored as one of the top 100 legal blogs by the ABA in 2011. He is also a former columnist for Above the Law, and a certified sommelier. His first book. The Practice: Brutal Truths About Lawyers and Lawyering was published by the ABA in October of 2014. In today’s show, Jacob talks to Brian about the future of law, why business cards are pointless, the value of networking and how to stay happy in your job.
“Any lawyer that tells you that they don’t have slow times, they are lying to you’” – Brian Tannebaum
What do lawyers do when they need a lawyer? They go to Brian Tannebaum. Brian has 20 years of practicing law and he now uses his experience to help other lawyers with issues within their business or the law. Brian doesn’t believe in business cards, warns against putting all your eggs in one basket on the internet and social media, and absolutely approves of taking time off. In today’s show, we hear about Brian’s reasons for all of these and more.
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In this interview you’ll learn
- 01’40” – Why Brian believes that lawyers should have hobbies
- 05’55” – The future of law and why Brian believes that the new technologies are a joke
- 10’05” – Brian’s views on the internet and social media
- 18’23” – Brian’s views on how to make your first practice work
- 20’40” – Brian’s networking tips
- 24’30” – Brian’s recommendations on what to do when business is slow
- 29’47” – Brian’s fee collection tips
- 34’08” – How to find meaning in the practice of law
- 36’56” – How to have fun in law
Written Podcast Transcription:
Jacob: Hello everybody, this is Jacob Sapochnick with The Enchanting Lawyer Podcast. This is a show where we interview the most inspiring entrepreneurs, attorneys, and business people who share with us their ideas and help us be better at what we do, inspire us to achieve better results. We always learn something new.
Today, I have an attorney on the show. We had a few shows before where we had different business people, but today we have a very smart attorney. A newspaper reporter once wrote that Brian Tannebaum is the lawyer that lawyers go to when they find themselves in hot water. Past President of the Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, now in his 20th year of practice.
Brian’s clients are either lawyers trying to remain lawyers, law students trying to become lawyers, or those facing state or federal criminal charges. His professional ethics blog mylawlicense.com was honored as one of the top 100 legal blogs by the ABA in 2011. He’s also a former columnist for the Above the Law and a Certified Sommelier
His first book The Practice: Brutal Truths About Lawyers and Lawyering was published by the ABA in the October of 2014. It’s an amazing book and I’m excited to have Brian here so we can ask him more about this. Welcome to the show, Brian. How are you?
Brian: I’m great. It’s very nice to be with you, Jacob.
Jacob: Excellent, very good.
Brian, when I was reading your bio, I didn’t realize you were a sommelier and that’s something that I wanted to ask you as well about. What are some of the things that you think lawyers should be doing outside of their profession? I think in the book you also mentioned that we are lawyers but it’s always nice to have different hobbies or something that will change a little bit of our routine. In your case, I know it’s a big passion of you, the wine business. How has that helped you in the legal profession?
Brian: It’s a great question. I appreciate you asking.
In 2011, I had spent a great deal of time enjoying wine, collecting wine, and going to tastings and meeting people. I just decided that I would become proficient. I went to a class and studied for a test and became certified. For no other reason than it was just something interesting to me.
And as you mentioned in the book, I think one of my chapters is called Get a Hobby. Especially in my practice, I’m dealing with lawyers who may not be practicing much longer because of discipline issues or criminal issues. We have these conversations about what else are you interested in. I find lawyers aren’t interested in much else. I think that’s a problem.
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